tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post54060927333656194..comments2023-10-31T06:06:29.927-07:00Comments on line cook.: Teaching the Terrible Tournant.Richiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09941245006346350955noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-14995998823751194112010-01-19T02:10:54.535-08:002010-01-19T02:10:54.535-08:00@Michael:
Did you see this line: "The idea i...@Michael:<br />Did you see this line: "The idea is that Oliver has shown enough drive and raw skill to move off of the cold station, and get a chance to lend a hand and even try to fill in for a few orders as the night goes on. Ideally, Oliver would already be proficient on all of the stations in the kitchen before being given this position."<br /><br />I understand the positions in a brigade...but I think every cook has worked for a chef that tweaked these rules...so thats what I wrote. Thanks for the feedback.Richiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09941245006346350955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-7036050266141082372010-01-19T00:24:48.999-08:002010-01-19T00:24:48.999-08:00While your teaching methods are very true and we h...While your teaching methods are very true and we have all been through them, the tournant is not the bitch on the line. Having been a tournant in NY for years, it is actually the seasoned, head line cook who can do any station better than any of the other line cooks thus being allowed to fill in on your days off never missing a beat. Think of the tournant as under the sous who does not have to mess with managerial stuff right now like ordering, scheduling, or dealing with ego centric line cooks pissing on new talent that the exec might want to take over their station. Just a heads up before you belittle what a tournant actually is.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07657242695327532748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-48160225238225503332009-10-29T05:20:28.558-07:002009-10-29T05:20:28.558-07:00I guess it all boils down to the rather trite but ...I guess it all boils down to the rather trite but true "each one teach one." The only way to truly excel at what you love is to fuck up early in the game and listen to the people who know better and are willing to be brutally honest with you. If you don't like it, then move on because you'll never learn unless you listen.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539467429501625137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-62047631877340392972009-10-22T06:04:05.678-07:002009-10-22T06:04:05.678-07:00Great writing as usual Richie. I liked the line, ...Great writing as usual Richie. I liked the line, "A little venom in your approach might help to motivate your student." At the place I'm working now, I almost CRAVE that little bit of venom not because I enjoy the rare harshness but rather I appreciate the educational side of it (option #2). Get enough mithridatic venom in you and you'll learn the right technique/work cleaner/listen to directions/prep properly/etc. The worse thing for a young cook is a lack of strict and direct supervision and hands-on training. If you have the patience and skill to take on a padawan, then you are a true jedi and master of your craft.<br /><br />You mentioned something in your podcast about the old school original food cart vendors being resentful of this recent wave of trendy newcomers. I'm glad to see the NYT giving them a bit of exposure:<br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/dining/reviews/21under.html<br /><br />and some good advice to all young cooks about "rice dicks": see<br />http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2009/10/14/the-sushi-nazi/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03605133853599519610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-64175445864219414722009-10-21T22:00:38.742-07:002009-10-21T22:00:38.742-07:00Funny thing about this post (a lot of them actuall...Funny thing about this post (a lot of them actually) I had this same thought tonight at work. I wanted to kick this kid in the head but instead I helped. It's a nice turn of event for me given that I'm a very aggressive person, and I don't hold back what I'm thinking. The difference however, was that this person was training someone else when he had no business doing so. What do you do in a situation like that? <br /><br />On another note, one major point I have learned about going to culinary (so far) is that you have to teach the ones who are new to "the game" if you don't, you're just being selfish. So, well done again on your blog. Love it.JessPavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13721768374004262989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-61698938980550129062009-10-21T21:53:15.384-07:002009-10-21T21:53:15.384-07:00Your observations are great... and applicabl to an...Your observations are great... and applicabl to any supervisory situation.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05018244140995278517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-4051040935207992712009-10-21T15:01:41.551-07:002009-10-21T15:01:41.551-07:00"why is it that 75% of my visitors at work ar..."why is it that 75% of my visitors at work are out of their minds drunk?" <br /><br />I suspect Neyah, Matty, Yanni, et al might have some small part in that particular phenomena. Plus, you know, you gotta work up some steam before saying "hi" to the famous "linecook"!erik.ellestadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845962797641281899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816829458403939488.post-39581054840693030992009-10-21T12:27:16.673-07:002009-10-21T12:27:16.673-07:00Please remind corey not to ask for a shark vagina ...Please remind corey not to ask for a shark vagina at the vagina manufacturing place!<br /><br />Great post. Sometimes it's easy to forget and just get caught up with where we're at with regards to our own skill set, mise, career path or what have you. It's easy to overlook those who could benefit from your experience and wisdom.<br /><br />But before we go off singing kum ba yah with the tournant... don't forget to whack him in the sack once or twice and tell him he's a no good fuck up! Not sure what happens when the tournant is a female...guess the ball shot won't hurt as much.<br /><br />Anyway, afterwards when you're cleaning up or having a shift drink, you can give them a thumbs up and a "you aren't so fucking bad after all!"<br /><br />Please forgive my Spanish....Pavlovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16211091650412970845noreply@blogger.com